Professional Problems segment 3 – NHL vs. NFL
Mike Wilson | National Hockey League
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National Football League
History: The predecessor to the NFL is considered to be the Ohio League, which was a weak assembly of teams scattered across the state of Ohio. The league has supposedly been dated back to the 1890s and has had a championship since 1903. In 1920, the American Professional Football Association was formed (named changed to National Football League in 1922). Two charter teams are still in existence today: the Arizona Cardinals (then Chicago Cardinals) and the Chicago Bears (then Decatur Staleys). The oldest team never to relocate is the Green Bay Packers, who have been playing since 1921 (though founded in 1919). The first annual college draft was held in 1936. The league was also the first to have a team on the west coast when the Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles in 1945. In the 60s, the NFL and American Football League would have their champions play each other in a game later known as the Super Bowl. The two leagues fully merged under the name “National Football League” in 1970.
Expansion and number of teams: Major expansions in 1921 (though few of those teams are still in existence) and 1960, but most other franchises entered during various years. There are currently 32 teams in the league.
Major problems: Athlete criminal activity, substance abuse, and old quarterbacks not knowing when to retire.
Commissioner: Roger Goodell
Trophy/Game: Vince Lombardi Trophy/Super Bowl
Manner of division: Two conferences – AFC and NFC, four divisions a piece
Regular Season Games: 16 games over 17 weeks (including a bye week)
Game pace: Medium
Common Ground
History: NFL-x NHL-0
This point is given to the NFL for the same reasons that it was given to MLB two segments ago. It’s based around a sport that has been there for America when it needed its mind eased in the most troublesome times. While the NFL never really developed the deep rivalries that the NHL has over their longer history, they have managed to create such a large fan base that stretches far from each team’s home city. And, more impressively, they accomplished this nationwide with more teams than the NHL (not to mention over less square mileage since no teams reside in Canada…yet).
More importantly most of the teams in the NFL have such rich and long histories individually. In fact, 26 of the 32 teams currently in the league were formed either up to or before 1970, 21 have been members up to or before 1960, 11 since 1950 and earlier (the Chicago Cardinals first played in 1898 as an amateur city club team). The NHL did have more teams before the Great Depression, but only six survived and played from the 1920s until 1967, when the league doubled its size from 6 to 12.
Expansion: NFL-x NHL-0
Some of this reasoning was mentioned above. Football spread farther and faster. The game of football is a lot easier watch and, more importantly, play. The NFL was also the first league to expand to the Pacific coast with the Los Angeles Rams in 1945, something the NHL didn’t accomplish until 22 years later with the arrival of the L.A. Kings and California Seals in 1967.
For that matter, all of the current NFL teams west of the Mississippi River, except the Seattle Seahawks, have been existence since before 1967 (the Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams, and New Orleans Saints are included in that statistic as well).
Major Problems: NFL-x3 NHL-0
That’s right, I gave the NFL three points for this category. When a league has so little problems, they deserve to get a point for each that they actually do have. The NFL has such stability that it virtually has no major problems via league operations. The major problems they do have can barley even be considered as that.
Severe criminal activity is really only linked to Dallas cornerback and return specialist Adam “Pacman” Jones. Jones has been arrested in the past for assault, felony vandalism, disorderly conduct, public intoxication, obstruction of justice, marijuana possession, and speeding. He was also related to, though not charged for, two different shootings in Atlanta and Las Vegas. As far as illegal substance abuse goes, it’s usually nothing more than the occasional lesser-known player getting caught with marijuana or other depressants then receiving a hefty fine and suspension.
“Old quarterbacks not knowing when to retire” is directed toward one in particular. Brett Favre had a chance to leave the NFL with his head held high and a great career with the Green Bay Packers. Now, he has chanced it all by returning to the league after a few months of retirement at the age of 38. For those not aware (which is unlikely considering it was all over every news program in the world), Favre is now with the New York Jets. Though this problem isn’t related to the NFL directly, league commissioner, Roger Goodell, was the one who allowed his re-instatement.
The NFL does not share the problems of the NHL. They already have a huge fan base, stable teams, and strong league management. And, unlike the NHL, these are things they have had for a while.
Commissioner: NFL-x NHL-0
This point goes to the NFL for two reasons. One: Roger Goodell is a part of a long line of NFL commissioners who have such a tight hold on their league and team owners that practically nothing can go wrong. Two: Gary Bettman does nothing mentioned in the previous sentence. When a league is running well, the commissioner is a big reason why. When a league is running poorly, the commissioner is a big reason why.
Trophy/Game: NFL-x NHL-x
This is also similar to the NHL/MLB showdown. However, this time, both trophies are very prestigious. The NFL’s high honor was first named the “World Championship Game Trophy” and was awarded to the winner of the AFL-NFL World Championship (later known as the Super Bowl). Its name was changed in 1967 in remembrance of legendary Green Bay Packers’ coach, Vince Lombardi.
Like MLB, the NFL has had many memorable championship moments. Namath vs. Unites, the Dolphins and Steelers of the 70s, 49ers of the 80s, Cowboys of the 90s, The Bills losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls, Elway and Favre (Packer Favre, not Jet Favre)…those are only a few things can’t be overlooked.
Manner of division: NFL-0 NHL-x
The NHL is divided geographically by both conference (east and west) and division (North, Atlantic/Pacific, and South). The NFL is only geographically divided by divisions (north, south, east, and west) and its conferences (American and National) overlap.
Regular Season Games: NFL-0 NHL-x
One thing the NHL does very well is feeding its fans’ hunger for hockey. Its 82-game schedule over a span of 8 months (not including playoffs and pre-season) provides fans with constant action while giving its players time to recover from game to game. The only thing the NFL has going for its 16-game weekly schedule is anticipation for the next game. However, even that has been intruded on with Monday Night Football becoming so important, the occasional Thursday game, and constant daily coverage on sports networks.
Game pace: NFL-0 NHL-x
This one is, again, dominated by the NHL. While hockey barely stops, football stops after every play to allow their players time to catch what breath they lost over the course of that play and regroup for the next one. There’s no time for that in the NHL, everything is done spur of the moment, which makes for a much faster game.
The final tally
Not surprisingly, the NHL loses this one with a score: NFL-7, NHL-4.
Now some of you might be saying to yourself “If you didn’t give the NFL three points in one category, it wouldn’t look so bad.” Exactly. If I got you to think that then I did my job well. The NFL is so stable that it literally deserves that much more credit than the NHL (or in this case, three more points). If the NHL was more like the NFL, then my job would be harder, but, in this case, it’s not.
So, while the NHL keeps its dignity through game integrity and appeal, the NFL rightfully pulls ahead with its large fan base, stable environment, and healthy future.
Current rankings:
1 NFL
2 NHL
2 NBA
4 MLB
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Next week, the NHL “faces off” (pardon the pun) with its trans-Atlantic rival, the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL).

Comments
Pens1967
Aug 12, 11:27 AM
I love football and am a Steeler season ticket holder, but each year it seems the NFL treats its ticket-buying fans as an afterthought. For example, “flex scheduling” leaves fans unable to plan around a game not knowing if it will move from 1PM to 4PM or 4PM to 1PM or 4PM to 8PM or 8PM to 4PM. The NFL cares not how inconvenienced its ticket buying fans are. For example, last year in the playoffs when the Pgh-Jax game was at night and
a playoff game involving a west coast went off at 4PM Eastern. There was no reason the east coast teams couldn’t have played at 4 and west coast teams at 8 (5PM PST).
Oversaturation of the NFL on TV is an underappreciated problem for them.
Matt Bodenschatz
Aug 12, 11:29 AM
Wow, Pens. I never thought about how inconvenient flex scheduling would be to the ticket buyers. Now that you mention it, it truly is ridiculous.
P.S. If you ever can’t use your tickets…. :)
TIM
Aug 12, 12:01 PM
How did the whole Michael Vick thing not get mentioned? Or Spy Gate? On one hand you have a guy who was a star, on the cover of Madden, and very well paid, ending up in jail. There was/is doubt cast over the authenticity of the Super Bowl wins of NE. I know that the sport is to big to ever have any long term popularity issues, but I think those were bigger deals than Farve.
Mike Wilson
Aug 12, 12:52 PM
Tim, you are right about Vick and Spy Gate, they are things of great importance and probably should have been mentioned. Vick, however, was handled well by the NFL and he was dealt with appropriately by both the league and the law, thus eliminating his problem.
I do agree that the Pats were not dealt wth accordingly. However, that lies on the hands of former commissioner Paul Tagliabue (serving 1989-2006). Whether he just couldn’t get legal precedent or enough proof of their fraud before his retirement I’m not really sure. But, as you say, their Super Bowls have a shadow stretching over them.
As for Favre, I’m only making light of his situation…as the context states, he’s not really a problem of the league’s front office or a threat to their future.
Thank you for reminding me of those instances, Tim.
TIM
Aug 12, 01:29 PM
No problem Mike, and I really just wanted to show that even with these issues the NFL’s popularity never seems to waver which is amazing. I have never thought about the Spy Gate issues being Paul Tagliabue’s problem, but you are right since all 3 victories were during his tenure.
PS Sorry if I came off sounding bratty, I live in Boston and as a life long Steeler fan I have to deal with Pats fans everyday.
Mike Wilson
Aug 12, 01:43 PM
No worries, Tim. I can’t imagine the stesses you deal with being a Steeler fan in Patriot country.
Pens1967
Aug 12, 03:29 PM
Matt, the flex scheduling can really play havoc with plans. It’s not so bad for home team fans, but Steeler fans travel very well and often plan their trips far in advance based on the schedule. It’s a shame when a fan makes reservations, buys tickets and then has the game moved to a time when he or she can’t make it.
As for my tickets, if ever you can’t use your Penguin tickets… :)
Matt Bodenschatz
Aug 12, 03:37 PM
Considering I don’t have Penguins season tickets, I always find a way to use the tickets I get :)
Dabich
Aug 13, 09:36 PM
hey guys, throw some tickets THIS way! :P
Mike, good job all around.
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