Pens Still Draw Lightning Comparisons

Matt Bodenschatz | Pittsburgh Penguins

Sep 23, 12:34 PM | Hype this story!

As the Pittsburgh Penguins signed core players Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury and Brooks Orpik to long-term contracts this summer, a heavy debate ensued, questioning whether the top-heavy Penguins were more like the Tampa Bay Lightning or Ottawa Senators.

The basis for the argument is that all three teams built a foundation of young, talented, expensive players, leaving limited salary cap space for the remainder of the roster.

After quite some time, it seemed the debate was in the past, but Damien Cox felt the need to rehash in his column.

He wrote:

“The cost of paying so much to so few, as Tampa Bay found out with its now disbanded Big Three, will be instability and yearly turnover with the other 60 per cent of the roster.”

The problem with the comparison is that Tampa Bay paid big money to three forwards and, to an extent, ignored the other positions.

Of the three forward, Vincent Lecavalier is the only player truly capable of carrying a team. Martin St. Louis is a fine player indeed, but certainly not worthy of elite money. And Brad Richards, well, he earned his payday after a breakout playoffs, and never really returned to form.

To make room for their salaries, Tampa Bay let go of their goaltender, Nikolai Khabibulin, and let their defense — aside from offense-only Dan Boyle — fall apart.

Their penance: a trip down the ladder to the NHL’s basement.

The Penguins, however, have gone about issuing money with much caution.

Sidney Crosby was a no-brainer, as was Malkin. Both are franchise-caliber players who many consider to be the best two centers in the game. And Fleury is the franchise goaltender who will backstop this team to championship glory.

Also in the mix are veteran defensemen Ryan Whitney and Orpik, one offensive and one defensive.

So, with Tampa Bay, we saw a focus on offense alone, with much ignorance for the rest of the roster. In Pittsburgh’s case, general manager Ray Shero has spread out the money to include all positions, creating a core that extends from one end of the ice to the other.

Cox went on to say:

“This summer, the Pens lost unrestricted forwards Gary Roberts, Ryan Malone, Jarkko Ruutu, Marian Hossa, Georges Laraque and Adam Hall, as well as goalie Ty Conklin.

“In their place, the club brought in forwards Miro Satan, Ruslan Fedotenko and Eric Godard and will give some farmhands a chance.

“The Penguins can expect similar roster churn next summer, with nine more unrestricted free agents.”

And here are my various problems with this:

  • Roberts played very little last season and clearly was nothing more than a fourth liner in the playoffs. His loss creates room for a cheaper, healthier, younger player to play limited minutes on the fourth line.
  • Malone was extremely overpaid by the Lightning after a great playoff run. Dejavu, anyone?
  • Ruutu was replaced by a young, more offensively gifted agitator, Matt Cooke.
  • Hossa was a playoff rental who cost very little in terms of assets given up for production received. Keeping him would have further pushed the Penguins into the Tampa Bay mold.
  • Laraque, who rarely fought, was replaced at half the price, for a fighter who, well, fights. More bang for the buck, as I like to say.
  • Hall was a depth player who had a nice playoff run. Hardly worth worrying about.
  • Conklin was the team’s third string goalie until Fleury’s injury. Three NHL-caliber goalies isn’t a wise way to spend money.
  • And, lastly, Fedotenko and Satan will be more than adequate at making up for some of the lost offense.

In Tampa Bay, the Lightning won a Stanley Cup and fell off the map. Yet, in Ottawa, where a more balanced team with superstars was put together, the team had a string of success that lasted nearly 10 years, but never won a Cup.

Every franchise faces free agency obstacles on a yearly basis. The good ones prevail. The poor ones look back and think of what might have been.

Nothing is certain for the Penguins over the next few years, but with Shero’s foresight and savvy, it seems like the team will look a bit more like the Senators, who filled holes on their rosters with capable players, than the Lightning, who had three forwards, one defenseman, and holes at every other position.

Comments

  1. KG

    Sep 23, 12:51 PM

    Nicely said. I agree completely. The comparison between Pittsburgh and Tampa falls short in many ways. As you stated, Tampa’s spending on St. Louis and Richards was not a good investment. Both very good players, but both should not be getting paid that kind of money.

    They also let their goalie go which was a mistake in judgment imo.

    I agree with you in your analysis. The fact that the pens have a solid core of forwards (Crosby, Malkin, Staal (the money is there for an extension)and a franchise goalie (MAF) and a solid defense both present and future, puts the pens in a much better position then the Lightning are/were in…

  2. Matt Bodenschatz

    Sep 23, 01:00 PM

    To add, the Penguins have drafted very well in recent years, grabbing serviceable, if not solid players in the later rounds. If that trend continues, utilizing the farm (which Cox makes sound like a bad thing) is a very viable and respectable way to maintain a franchise and fill in the holes left by free agents who have priced themselves out of town. The perfect example is the Detroit Red Wings, who have used this philosophy for years and have built a dynasty doing so.

  3. Andrew R

    Sep 23, 03:18 PM

    Matt, agree with everything, but the one trap the Penguins farm system may fall into is the lack of high round selections the past two seasons. It is difficult for a farm system to produce solid prospects like the Letangs and Goligoskis without the luxury of high round selections. The Penguins did not even pick until the fourth round this past season. In a few years, the cupboard may be bare.

    This is highly premature, but also relevant to the topic at hand. Suppose Jordan Staal does not sign an extension to his entry level contract beore he becomes a RFA next July 1. Suppose further that he blossoms into a 35-goal, 80 point power forward and continues his Selke-worthy play in his own end. He could easily be in line for a RFA offer sheet in the range that would land the Penguins 3 to 4 first round picks. It certainly seems possible that Staal may play his way out of the Pens’ budget, particularly with the Pens signing so many of their core players to long-term deals. I have not heard any word on negotiations for an exension for Staal, but I’m sure avoiding a situation where a third of the team takes up 80% of the payroll would be a huge concern for the Pens. Could you see him as a candidate for an RFA offer sheet along the lines of the scenario I just described?

  4. Matt Bodenschatz

    Sep 23, 03:38 PM

    Andrew, even with a lack of top-end picks, the Penguins remain in good shape. And, don’t assume that Shero has an interest in trading draft picks int he future. He saw an opportunity this past season and jumped on it — but not selecting until later rounds is not a trend that has been started.

    As far as an offer sheet, yes, I can see Staal being a candidate if he has the type of season you mention. But, with that being said, I seem him having a season more comparable to Malone’s from a year ago. 25-30 goals, 20-25 assists, power play and penalty kill ice time.

  5. diane~aka PL

    Sep 23, 04:10 PM

    D Cox is like leaf nation, believes only those in Canada can understand the nuances of the NHL game.
    He needs to defend his thoughts…

    good work. :)

  6. bhaw

    Sep 23, 05:01 PM

    Good job Matt. There are many more problems with the comparison, but you definitely bring out the good ones. I guess the Leaf followers need to try and rationalize the Jeff Finger signing by showing how all these other GMs went out and “splurged” by paying too much for guys.

  7. DS

    Sep 23, 05:28 PM

    How ‘bout let’s NOT be like the Sens in terms of that whole “nice try, no Cup” string-your-fanbase along every year thing….((shudder)).

  8. Matt Bodenschatz

    Sep 23, 05:38 PM

    How about this: combine the positives from both organizations: years of contention, plus a Stanley Cup or two?

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